what appears to me as the obvious needed direction moving towards more moderate/liberal views on these issues. And unrighteous dominion thrives. Copyright LastDaysTimeline.comAll Rights Reserved. Mike Stroud is teaching all of these NEW and EXPERIMENTAL concepts that are NOT based on any scriptural truths or words of the Prophets. Brother Sky, I agree its a very fine line. One time I asked the Lord, Lord am I traveling at night? .And he said, yes. And I said, I dont know it. He said, I know. That was it. The enemy of God is cunning and can put words or thoughts in your mind that, being nearly correct, discourage further study on that topic because you think youve gotten it straight from God. Sounds like you agreed with some things I saidand some not or at least the terminology. A stay-at-home mom to three, she enjoys family history research and talking religion. "Abundantly illustrated with frames and sequences, Video Art offers a history of the medium seen through the perspectives of its early practitioners - such as Bruce Nauman and Vito Acconci, who . Stroud that he has been excommunicated and called an apostate, and is so harshly judged by so many. Check Background Get Contact Info This Is Me - Edit They can appoint themselves to be teachers but no one else can. Guilt. In Elder Oaks talk Be Not Deceived he also did not teach that we should fear deception. Michael and Amy began their career in the San Francisco Bay Area working for Ernst & Young, and started raising their family of six children. Dave Grohl, a Neil Peart acolyte who inducted Rush into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2013, penned a tribute to the drummer following news of Pearts death Friday. Now I will write about LOVE. 3/3 He has built a legacy that will endure for many generations to come and will continue to inform our country. See: List of Latter-day Saints for current members of the LDS Church. But without love you wont probably care, and if you care, it is because of love. So I had a lady call me up a while back and she is up in Utah and she said brother Stroud can I share with you this experience, and I said please do it.She says I saw man and I dont know if I was in a dream or vision, I dont know what it was, but I saw man and he was standing in the distance and he was looking at me. I quite like Michael Rush. He thought his own wisdom was worth more than his membership in the Lords true church. But that is my own evolution, and is in no way precipitated by anyone speaking from a voice of authority. Ill first quote Mike Strouds statement, then the authors reaction and then my own response. They go together. As growing up in the 60s and 70s these stories were faith building. Thank you, Kimberly. Sorry, Bellamy, you said you know Mike. by Trucker August 20th, 2021, 5:03 am, Post The examples you cite are things that happened to prophets which in nearly all cases not only did they not strive for those experiences they would like to have avoided them. Talk to his neighbors and ward members as I have and you will see how badly you misjudge somebody who is only crime is taking the scriptures seriously and encouraging others to do the same. I think others have heard him quite differently. "661: Abby Huntsman and Carrie Sheffield and their Transitions Out of Mormonism". Press the space key then arrow keys to make a selection. Im not sure that garment changes fit a philosophy one way or another. It is what it is, and nobody here knows what it is, but only what it seems to be, with the missing parts filled in by each person that cares to imagine the missing parts. I think they all probably went to one too many Lynn Bryson firesides when they were younger. michael.b.rush. Fenerbahce Jersey Ozil, I really hope we can preserve it all together, because I think a huge part of the value of Mormonism is in our organizational strength and size and reach. Apparently, some tried it and did not have a good experience. Yes, he said almost. I explore the assumption that these are things we are to strive for. Further, I have never heard him claim anything destructive to the soul, the church, or its leaders. She only came to tell him about this vision she had. by Michael Rush Format: Kindle Edition Kindle Edition $9.99 Paperback $24.99 See all details Sold by Amazon.com Services LLC. In sharing that vision those that feel threatened wanted to kill him and he was directed to leave after going back for his familys set of scriptures that was in the possession of Laban. Fear. Judgment. One item I recognized in his new podcasts was something Stroud talked about in his original series, that the 144,000 talked about in the Book of Revelation were a group of men and women who used portals to move through time and space to gather the elect. Michael B. by mudflap August 20th, 2021, 8:37 am, Post Michael also answers to Michael B Rush, Michael Brando Rush and Michael Brandon Rush, and perhaps a couple of other names. DSC the Church has changed over the years and the changes nearly always are mostly in the moderate/liberal/progressive direction. He even said the church is basically responsible for distributing the Book of mormon while Mike and his podcasts were used by God to GATHER THE ELECT. 1. The plummet is a depth line to measure how deep the water is. Where they went? So what did Brother Stroud teach? Many prophets exist; men and women alike, but only one is THE prophet. Michael B. I was sickened to hear Visions of Glory was banned from Desert Book. The fate of the last 2 "break-away" feathersand who they serve UNDER. Nature and the great outdoors remind us that difficult times pass. I have also pondered a time or two about that fact that when Christ read the scriptures that had been kept by the Nephites he asked why Samuel the Lamanites warnings had not been kept as scripture..So that tells me that Samuel the Lamanite was NOT considered to have been given the gift of prophecy, or he was not a respected source of information when he was alive. Its okay to work with these things as long as the Zion initiate acknowledges them for the illusion that that are. So I anticipate future change to be more of the same. So if Stroud was declared apostate for teaching questionable doctrine, those are the obvious trouble spots.[1]. Follow to get new release updates, special offers (including promotional offers) and improved recommendations. Its a bit strong (evoking images of the occult), but the idea of requesting a specific heavenly messengers by name does seem unusual. The Chaplain wrote a complaint in the base newsletter about people preferring to go to the mountains on the Sabbath, which included me. I would not normally say this but least someone think of me as an apostate I have served as a member of multiple bishopricsfor 12 years ,8 as bishop. He inspired me to read the apocrypha of Esdras and I think the eagle prophecy is about the USA and is right on track. Did you think to ask Father in heaven to forgive you of your sin in the name of Jesus Christ? When I read about stuff like this and considering the alt-right elders quorum lesson I just sat throughrailing on the liberal media, pro-choicerers, and advocating shunning your out-of-the-close relativesand then you look at the research on millennials from Jana Reiss and what appears to me as the obvious needed direction moving towards more moderate/liberal views on these issues, it seems like some sort of schism is unavoidable. The lady did NOT come to Mike to ask if she had a Second Comforter experience. The government has made a pact with the devil to escape the pandemic because they have created their own vaccine and have lied to themselves and everyone else that it is safe and effective. Brother Skys comments are not without a sound of legitimacy, however, perhaps a couple more points might add to the discussion. But this doesnt seem to matter to the author. My great grandfather having read the Book of Mormon and desiring to know if it was true and having read about the 3 Nephites asked that they be sent to him to teach him the gospel. Still, this whole matter with Mike Stroud has been very disheartening. Were I to answer that question, I would simply be joining in the cacophony. Michael B. Conflicting values is nothing new. They were told that their willingness to give up their family to follow these deeper doctrines were just part of their Abrahamic test that would prepare them for their second comforter and becoming part of the 144,000. and MAKE NO MISTAKE this has nothing to do with President Nelsons push for us to receive Personal Revelation. 901 DEWEY STREET TALLAHASSEE, FL 32304. Infact, what Bryson noted was that at the same time she was the most loved person in class she was also the most hated. He believed that it was to benefit the modern-day descendants of Lehi, who are assigned to the tribe of Manasseh: I believe that the majority of the tribe of Manasseh are Spanish speakers. (Podcast 08: 1 Nephi 5-7, abt 41:51) In January, Stroud asked listeners for help to get translated Spanish (and Portuguese) podcasts into the hands of those who could benefit from them. Invitation. 9 reviews 2018 Edition - Includes Section Seven - World's Without End. The pages in that book after my daughter was murdered helped my heart to forgive and let go and for that I am forever grateful for his words he shared. That includes defining doctrines and positions of the Church and taking action on heresy from whatever side that may come. It is simultaneously hilarious and tragic that an institution who makes such extraordinary (some would say literally unbelievable) claims about personal revelations, heavenly visitations, etc. The concept of personal revelation has been a source of strength and tension since the beginning of the Church. What a dilemma! He is also an adviser with the National Diversity Coalition for Trump. Visit Author Central to update your books, profile picture, and biography. This journey led to a very odd place.the old apocrypha. When you start trying to define the difference between highly unlikely but inspired and highly unlikely and crazy (which is a very fine line, I think), youre playing a losing game, IMHO. She was one of the most loved people in the class. Other false teachers like Snuffer wrote their own material. On the other hand, if Mike actually was divinely inspired to share that podcast, then Ill stand corrected. Michael B Rush may have been arrested in or around of Florida, on or around Oct 30, 2010. But because of our fallen state, it can create the illusion that it does. He even admitted he was obsessed with the idea of The Remnant. If they say he was talking about astral projection then he was and thats that. Shiver me timbers! 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For them, all it takes is about 2 minutes of eastern style meditation and youre floating away. Comparison. I know when Stroud got excommunicated, Julie Rowe suggested she would likely suffer the same fate (though I didnt get the impression it was imminent). Don't miss this webinar with best selling author Michael Rush as he shares some of the careful and insightful ways he researches the scriptures in order to write powerful and thought-provoking books. [59] Benji Schwimmer, the winner of the 2006 So You Think You Can Dance show. I do not know him at all, but I have learned a great deal from his teachings of the scriptures. But its my understanding that he is appealing their ruling so well see how that goes. I like Rush in the general sense and have found some some of his views even helpful, but I disagree with him on a number of particulars. If we are not entertaining Angels as Stroud and Denver Snuffer claim to and many ,many of my friends claim to, then as Moroni said it is because of our unbelief. Did you do this 4 times a day for 4 years? Welcome to my YouTube channel! Its as if the messages lead to a circle of patting each other on the back for learning the mysteries rather than helping the suffering widow down the street. Very good comments. And there are other examples from the past year. This is a podcast for those that are wanting to understanding the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, and the restoration of the House of Israel. Now after getting someone excommunicated and probably getting another podcaster taken down, they are also developing an appetite for it. Which leads into Jackson County Missouri and the New Jerusalem. Mike did tell this man that if he wanted to learn the mysteries of God, he should not be afraid of deception. He is not in a position to be receiving revelation for anyone other than himself, his family and those he had/has stewardship over. In my prayers I give thanks for what I have and very seldom ask for anything. Generally speaking people who advance in true knowledge and understanding, and lets presume Brother Stroud is one such, grow in learning to recognize what I call the fingerprints of God that identify a particular spiritual experience as originating from God. Nevertheless, by suggesting that these men have these experiences because they are prophets of God confirms an hierarchythese men are specialeven, by extension, I love them more. But its not just about spending time with deity. All you have to do just read what was actually said and the authors deception is right there. I say this because in my long life Ive heard a few claim Pres. I said, Who was it? She said, Why it was the Lord. I said, How do you know it was the Lord? She said, I just knew it was the Lord. And I said, Congratulations, youve had a Second Comforter experience. Rush is the author of A Remnant Shall Return, Daniel 11, and Revelation the Vision of John the Divine. I hope those in Mikes stake high council did not use any of the content in this doc as a basis for their ruling. Instead of counseling God as to why someone else is blessed, theyd only ask what the next step is on their own path to perfection and if the blessings that God has given others might be off assistance to them. How many times over the last 25 years did I cringe when someone would quote Mormon Doctrine as fact instead of opinion. WATCH: Kamala Harris and Michael B. Jordan Open NBA All Star Game By Encouraging Vaccinations and Praising HBCUs Gov. Fenerbahe Players 2020, It is a BURDEN on those so chosen. That is the only dominion that can bring about eternal life. That passion for Mormon doctrine did not prevent his 2003 excommunication from the LDS Church. I pray for them. I can see the bind that the church is in here and I am actually somewhat sympathetic to its position, but of course, its a case where the church has done this to itself. I have enjoyed Mike Strouds podcast immensely. He sees them as moving us out of a preparatory state and into a higher one in anticipation of the Second Coming. Moroni 7 :35-37 It is the doctrine that converts. Required fields are marked *. There are a number of other attempts to emphasize certain doctrines that are more conservative than not. This reminds me of the community of people who experience Near Death Experiences. The podcast that I finally had to do research on and finally just Googled his name was the one on Familiar Spirits. Stroud said it almost feels like your being drawn upward. Hierarchy is a perception of of the fallen state We perceive that it exists because of our natural eyes. I think Brother Stroud left orbit some time ago. What a political correctness faith we have become. [This is the most likely reason I can see, which is why I noted that hed previously been corrected on inappropriate doctrines and highlighted questionable teachings in his newer podcasts.] So what are you going to do about it? Repeatedly act in clear, open, and deliberate public opposition to the Church or its leaders. And trust and hope wanes. Till thou shalt hear the holy voice Dont be afraid. Rush, author of: A Remnant Shall Return-Daniel 11-REVELATION the Vision of John Divine. With this we can rid ourselves of all fear and ridicule of others and have confidence that we are taking the right path. Actually I know of one of Kimberlys associates who flat out disagreed with this very quote during a social media discussion. The author, on the other hand, rather likes using fear as a teaching tool. While I still dont know the specific basis of the determination of apostacy, your comment provides some context in addition to those few podcasts, Mary Anns article, and Bellamys comments. We are all learning and doing the best we can given the circumstances of our life. Number 2 however is very likely. I found this collection of essays by Michael Rectenwald, a former Marxist professor at NYU, to be a tremendous help in explaining how the woke folks sincerely believe the nonsense that they believe. Perhaps the authors research on this topic was poor, but this quote has come up on social media a number of times and Im a bit surprised the author has not seen it. Yes, no, maybe so! "No Pain, No Game". To make a long story short, when things seemed hopeless, two events planted the feeling in my mind and the word was spoken. Metro. It was inappropriate for me to teach that that the Church of Latter-day Saints is Aaronic in nature and preparatory to the Melchizedek priesthood institution referred to in scripture as the Church of the Firstborn. It sort of robs you of the joy of giving when you are really just complying with your selfish childs wish list. As JS said we can govern ourselves and let the spirit guide. No one would feel lesser because God has blessed one person in certain ways that he has not blessed them. Where are the stories of humble priests who offer the remaining candlesticks to the thief who spent years at hard labor for stealing a loaf of bread to feed his starving children? $383,000 MULLICA TOWNSHIP As Rush said, at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies, there are no degrees because the learning never stops. Michael B. Abramson is a practicing attorney. Nor is it any different from what i have heard lots of G As teach over the last 60 years. They mean well so it doesnt occur to them that odd and peculiar can be pretty damn good. Rush is the author of A Remnant Shall Return, Daniel 11, and Revelation the Vision of John the Divine. DEHLIN, JOHN. who have extraordinary experiences with God.. The 3 Eagle Head identification could have several different meanings, The 2 wings (Right and Left) identification, The Lion's timing of when it comes to "save the Saints", The deeper proof behind "Why Herbert Hoover". I have found much goodness and that which is lovely and of good report and praiseworthy in this mans podcasts. Thanks for this. Christ visiting hundreds and thousands of people at the same time at the temple in Bountiful with rings of fire around the children andgranting translation to the 3 Nephites. Michael's net worth hovers over $100,000 - $249,999 with a yearly income that's about $200 - 249,999. Yea, keep His law with all thy might There are tens of thousands of us all across the conservative movement. In June, she elaborated on the process of President Nelson writing impressions down on a yellow note pad and how she has been prompted at times to leave the room. Mike Stroud set himself up as a light about the Prophet of God and convinced people that it would be through his Podcasts that THE REMENT would be awakened and they were the ones chosen to prepare the way for the second coming of the Lord. I am really disappointed in this article. Let me explain what Mike Stroud is really teaching: He is teaching a practice called astral Projection though he never uses that word. Its okay that Wilford Woodruff had the vision of the founding fathers asking him why their work wasnt done (even though it had been done previously) but its not okay if someone else has them? But we laugh at those ideas today. Continue to follow the teachings of apostate sects (such as those that advocate plural marriage) after being corrected by their bishop or a higher authority. Michael can be contacted at [emailprotected]Michael B. But there are some things are easily disprovable which Ill I will now address. Note: The FTC wants me to remind you that this website contains affiliate links. 97. Michael B. Jordan stars in the movie based on Clancy's novel. The book the Lord said in the Doctrine and Covenants had some problems. My response: On the other hand, there are also many in our faith who truly believe that the illusions of separation and comparison are a very real thing. We have heard only a few of Mikes podcasts encouraging personal revelation. The purpose of the stories, in my opinion of course, is to show these men doing a duty which in many cases cost them their lives. If Im not mistaken one of only 2 prayers from His mouth recorded in the Bible. False prophets, false Christs and false teachers would arise and deceive manyif it were possible, even the very elect. These men and women called to this ministry have an assignment in a future day when hopelessness and despair, destruction and death rule the day to go into these nations and through priesthood power and the gifts of the Spirit find these lost ones who have no hope of deliverance and bring them through miraculous ways superseding time and space and deliver them to places of safety and refuge set up by the Lord in his wisdom throughout the world, [57:26] Many of them will be translated in the flesh, as in ancient times, so as to be able to fulfill this mission successfully to bring these redeemed of the Lord to Zion. Are in a same-gender marriage. Michael B Rush 1947 Born c. 1947 Last Known Residence Dallas County, Texas Summary Michael B Rush of Dallas County, Texas was born c. 1947. Send us comments about our Author Pages. I first wrote about Mike Stroud in September 2017, several months after I'd been introduced to his podcasts by a wardmember. 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